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six years from now, when he runs for re-election, if he runs for re-election, it will be a vastly different state, more purple. people forget not so long ago, texas was a democratic state, back and forth. do you think, like mark thinks, maybe there's a national play here? >> it was pointed out to me yesterday he was born in canada. there's a problem -- i heard this argument yesterday thinking about the future. i think he's thinking about the future and putting his chips down on the tea party populous part of the part. i any hispanic in this part of the party will get a lot more attention. he decided he wants to play on the tea party side of the fence rather than mainstream. the national thing is problematic is the fact he was born outside the country so he's not constitutionally -- >> some people think he could run because his mother was an american citizen when he was born. >> i hope that's true because it would vindicate what i said yesterday. >> we could annex canada. >> is that the official policy? >> and another person was born out of the country and ran for president. >> there you go.
six years from now, when he runs for re-election, if he runs for re-election, it will be a vastly different state, more purple. people forget not so long ago, texas was a democratic state, back and forth. do you think, like mark thinks, maybe there's a national play here? >> it was pointed out to me yesterday he was born in canada. there's a problem -- i heard this argument yesterday thinking about the future. i think he's thinking about the future and putting his chips down on the tea...
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everybody has a bad election. >> that's right. >> you're only as good as your last election. but i've got to think, it didn't help that he was so wrong on so many counts. and like dick morris, kept going on fox saying they're going to win. even through the night. i'm just wondering, especially with that performance election night, because even bush people that ran the bush white house are whispering quietly. you know, karl always had his own numbers. he always had this alternate reality. he's getting it from all sides. >> look, over the long term, life is more fair than unfair. karl rove's greatest strength, i think, is this incredible confidence that he brings to the game of politics. i do think he's very, very skilled, operative. in this case that strength became a weakness. it removed him from the reality of the republican problems, at least in the way he talked about them. it looked like he was putting a happy face as the ship got lower and lower beneath the waterline. i don't think this is by any means the end of karl's career. i think he's going to continue to be a majo
everybody has a bad election. >> that's right. >> you're only as good as your last election. but i've got to think, it didn't help that he was so wrong on so many counts. and like dick morris, kept going on fox saying they're going to win. even through the night. i'm just wondering, especially with that performance election night, because even bush people that ran the bush white house are whispering quietly. you know, karl always had his own numbers. he always had this alternate...
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i think with that ratrack recor and getting re-elected by large numbers, i don't think he'll get re-elected in the 60s o 70s, but winning new jersey state, a blueish state, as you said, i think will make him instantly an attractive possibility for republicans headed into 2016. >> how could he say no if he were called upon, if he remains this popular, remains a national figure the way he is now, if he's called upon by his party, wouldn't he have to run? >> i actually -- i'm always skeptical of this idea that someone is called upon. they actually have to decide to go after it. and then when they go after it with gusto and energy, then grass-roots movements follow that. national grass-roots movement don't create a candidacy that a candidate can't resist. so he's going to have to decide if he wants to go for it. it's a low-risk proposition. one of his concerns about running this past time in 2012 is he had run and lost, it would have made it harder for him to get re-elected in governor in 2013. that's no longer a risk. >> it's creating a lot of pent-up demand. he will go for it with gusto. >> w
i think with that ratrack recor and getting re-elected by large numbers, i don't think he'll get re-elected in the 60s o 70s, but winning new jersey state, a blueish state, as you said, i think will make him instantly an attractive possibility for republicans headed into 2016. >> how could he say no if he were called upon, if he remains this popular, remains a national figure the way he is now, if he's called upon by his party, wouldn't he have to run? >> i actually -- i'm always...
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he's won his re-election. i really don't think this is about, with him, 2014. i think this is about 2012. i think he feels he's obligated to people that voted for a certain way to move forward. but he wants to try and meet halfway with the republicans because we're going to see people suffer. we're talking about people losing jobs, being furloughed. national security. i don't think he wants to see that happen, but he can't negotiate with himself. and i think the cuts are on the table, cuts that he told us straight out, a lot of you are not going to like, but i'm putting them on the table. where are the republicans? and i think that we don't need them to come in the night before. we need to deal with this and get this off the table of america. do you realize that if we have meat inspector that are laid off here, joe, that will raise the price of meat. not the price of republican meat or democratic meat. everybody will suffer here. and i think that we need responsible leadership on both sides. >> so, okay. when you spoke with him, did he bring up chain cpi? becau
he's won his re-election. i really don't think this is about, with him, 2014. i think this is about 2012. i think he feels he's obligated to people that voted for a certain way to move forward. but he wants to try and meet halfway with the republicans because we're going to see people suffer. we're talking about people losing jobs, being furloughed. national security. i don't think he wants to see that happen, but he can't negotiate with himself. and i think the cuts are on the table, cuts that...
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we have an election. we hear they might start talking together in a more positive sense. yet, here we have a situation that the defense industry hates, that advocates for the poor hate, that economists hate because you're going to cut wildly, some say, defense, cut wildly these programs for the poor, and slow down the economy when we're already in negative growth. so how do they not -- i just -- i can't get it through my head. how do they not get together and fix this? it seems like that's the only option. >> you're asking the right question. part of the answer is last week harry reid and speaker boehner met, i understand, and harry reid, the democratic leader in the senate, majority leader, said, look, let's postpone this for a year and literally said to john boehner, you can't let this moment go by. i don't think boehner wants to let it go by, but he took a real hit on the tax increases for the rich when they did the fiscal cliff negotiations. another one main this sequence. they won't give, at least at this point. it truly is government at its worst. >> so andrew ross
we have an election. we hear they might start talking together in a more positive sense. yet, here we have a situation that the defense industry hates, that advocates for the poor hate, that economists hate because you're going to cut wildly, some say, defense, cut wildly these programs for the poor, and slow down the economy when we're already in negative growth. so how do they not -- i just -- i can't get it through my head. how do they not get together and fix this? it seems like that's the...